Above, where the English-born electorate lives in Scotland. In some parts, up to a third of the voters are English-born. Given their likely older age profile and the higher turnout in the elderly, they may account for more that a third of those who vote.
Here are the results:
If you remove, I’m not saying you should (!), the one-third, the results flip over into a Yes majority and produce a strong Yes majority across the country.
There’s a clear lesson there for Yes campaign messaging in these areas, to win English-born and older voters over. Agree that they had legitimate reasons to vote No in 2014, but show how much things have changed and how the UK they wanted to preserve in 2014, is no longer there.
Talking-up Scotland / Scottish media fact checking is like shooting fish in a barrel 
Lesley Riddoch gave a bit of insight into this during the 2014 referendum. She related how, while driving north to a meeting in Perth, there was an increasing number of “Vote No” banners erected in fields. She began to think even the fields were going to vote “no”.
Is this not symptomatic of the difference between rural and urban politics, where the local landowner has considerable, if informal, influence on his tenants and/or workers? Look at two of the areas that you cite – Highlands with grouse moors etc, and Borders (south) dominated by farming and other rural industries. The latter particularly strongly elect Tory MPs, and even in the Highlands politics is more, at best, middle of the road (being a radical is to be a member of the Lib Dems).
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“There’s a clear lesson there for Yes campaign messaging in these areas, to win English-born and older voters over. Agree that they had legitimate reasons to vote No in 2014, but show how much things have changed and how the UK they wanted to preserve in 2014, is no longer there”.
Agree 100% with this
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Scottish resident English votes for No ?
Not so much turkeys voting for Christmas as passengers on The Titanic punching holes in the lifeboats !
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I spoke once to an Englishman who cheerfully announced we would never be independent as 6 million English would move here, including him and his family. Clearly he thought every English resident would be a “no” voter. A charming chap.
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and these %s will continue to rise imho, when a flat in a large ex council block in London can fetch £500k, and new build housing here is a fair bit cheaper.
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Our local indy group and SNP group is made up of quite possibly 50/50 and 60/40, in terms of Scottish/English split. I agree that the Highlands and Islands were traditionally Liberal voters, but I would say after Russel Johnson and Charlie Kennedy things changed. Indeed, before Charlie died voting had changed, evidenced by the 2014 vote.
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This reminded me of a recent tweet where a lady had spoken to an young English couple who had just moved to the Borders. When she remarked they might vote yes in the forthcoming referendum they both scoffed that they had moved for the perks – the baby box for their unborn child, cheap house prices, free prescriptions etc but they would never vote for independence. Needless to say the Scottish lady was left speechless
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The voting franchise is the issue, no other country gives the foreign settlers a veto on their democracy. Decolonisation process is whats required, only the indigenous Scots should get a vote on a constitutional issue. Remember EVIL English votes for English laws and Brexit where Europeans where stopped from voting by Westminster. This was a constitutional franchise so is an independence referendum. We all know English people who will vote for independence however it is naive to think that 1.2 million will. There loyalty is to their mother country England. Colonialism is the issue and Decolonialisation through the UN is the answer.
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🤣 There’s always Juan…
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There’s nothing wrong with residency requirements – they are fairly common in Europe and that’s including the Scandinavian countries also Germany. It is not an ethnic issue as is often portrayed, it is to do with understanding, community and interest. To mention residency requirements with regard to independence is ‘beyond the pale’ often equated with racism etc., but it is a common practise (as in the Brexit vote) for (what should be) obvious reasons. The task we have is to ensure that our vision for independence is attractive to all who live here, and with a particular focus on the most resistant age group i.e., the 65 and over. Pensions, free bus passes, better public transport – issues such as these should lead the ‘vision’. Unfortunately, under our present first minster there is no ‘vision’, just a series of virtuous, low cost aims or initiatives that have little resonance with anyone outside of that interest group. Presently the yes movement is dormant, demotivated by a poor quality ‘manager’ who does not know what leadership is. Time to move on to someone who has some charisma, who believes passionately in independence and, as I say, can convince all of those in Scotland that their future lies outside of the UK. Sturgeon has proven she isn’t it – well, unless her plan is to bore us into some form of submission to indy
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What about USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand? Indigenous peoples for decades had no vote and, in the US in Republican states, it is made hard for them to even register to vote and, if they turn up to vote they are often subject to harassment over identification.
The Ulster Plantations were pre democracy ways of changing the demographic and by gerrymandering, their descendants, with names like Paisley and Irvine not only had more votes per person, in small constituencies, while ‘The Fenians’ were concentrated into monster constituencies.
I know many English born people who support independence.
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I am certain Edinburgh Uni had a survey which ascertained native Scots had voted YES in 2014 but were outgunned by non-Scots from rUK and the EU.
What to do?
Play nice and convince those voters to change–the EU tranche will already have changed sides.
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Bob Lamont, you are the Juan
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Juan Cornetto?
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gavinochiltree , the eu tranche will change sides ? Do you mean sides of the North Sea ? They already have , so many have left Scotland and returned to the other side , since brexit.
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The really interesting thing about this poll, except the Anglophobia, is that there was no such poll by IPOS Mori on this date, go check their website. More minority xenophobic nationalist nonsense.
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On Twitter, I’m being accused of blood and soil nationalism by those who, I guess, haven’t read the full text.
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Oh for crying out loud!
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It’s those joined up words again….
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In Spain EU citizens couldvote inlocal and regional? and EU elections Not in national elections.
The EU citizens In Scotland voted No to remain in the EU. Brexit means they
will now for Independence. 200,000 will swing the vote to YES.
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