Since at least 1983, not a single Scottish vote has altered the result of a UK General Election

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This was posted by Mithrawndo on rScotland last night:

Since Thatcher’s victory in ’79, not a single Scottish vote has altered the result of a UK General Election. I wouldn’t be surprised if that trend held much further back than this, but it’s as far as I bothered to look.


1983:

Scottish Result: 41 Labour, 21 Conservative, 8 Alliance, 2 SNP

Adjusted UK election result: Conservative 376, Labour 168, Alliance 15

Change to sitting parliament: None


1987:

Scottish Result: 50 Labour, 10 Conservative, 9 Alliance, 3 SNP

Adjusted UK election result: 366 Conservative, 179 Labour, Alliance 13

Change to sitting parliament: None


1992:

Scottish Result: 49 Labour, 11 Conservative, 9 LibDem, 3 SNP

Adjusted UK election result: 325 Conservative, 222 Labour, 11 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


1997:

Scottish Result: 56 Labour, 10 LibDem, 6 SNP

Adjusted UK election result: 362 Labour, 165 Conservative, 36 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


2001:

Scottish Result: 56 Labour, 10 LibDem, 5 SNP, 1 Conservative

Adjusted UK election result: 356 Labour, 165 Conservative, 42 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


2005:

Scottish Result: 41 Labour, 11 LibDem, 6 SNP, 1 Conservative

Adjusted UK election result: 314 Labour, 197 Conservative, 51 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


2010:

Scottish Result: 41 Labour, 11 LibDem, 6 SNP, 1 Conservative

Adjusted UK election result: Conservative 305, Labour 217, LibDem 46

Change to sitting parliament: None


2015:

Scottish Result: 56 SNP, 1 Labour, 1 Conservative, 1 LibDem

Adjusted UK election result: 329 Conservative, 231 Labour, 7 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


2017:

Scottish Result: 35 SNP, 13 Conservative, 7 Labour, 4 LibDem

Adjusted UK election result: 304 Conservative, 255 Labour, 8 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


2019:

Scottish Result: 48 SNP, 6 Conservative, 4 LibDem, 1 Labour

Adjusted UK election result: 359 Conservative, 201 Labour, 7 LibDem

Change to sitting parliament: None


I compiled this as I was tired of seeing Labour supporters claim that it’s the fault of Scots that their party has become “unelectable”, figured it’d make an interesting talking point here too. I expect I’m duplicating already extant data, but I’ve done it now so… aye.

Data scraped from Wikipedia, you’ll need to click on each year and Wikipedia. Citations checked for each article, but please: Do your own research and verify this yourself.

14 thoughts on “Since at least 1983, not a single Scottish vote has altered the result of a UK General Election

  1. Given the disparity in population size, it is obvious Scotland cannot affect the governance of England.
    But England has agents in place to deprive Scotland of indigenous representative democracy.
    They are called —
    “Scottish” Conservatives.
    “Scottish” Labour.
    “Scottish” Lib Dems.
    Their lies and propaganda are disseminated through a colonial media, which maintains a despicable narrative of inadequacy and self-loathing, to keep Scotland subjugated..

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    1. The three ‘agents’ have since 2014 been part of a tacit SCALP – Scottish Conservative and LabLib Party. They use the same terminology when they raise questions at Holyrood.

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  2. In terms of democratic participation, there’s a mile of difference between procedural and substantive inclusion. Scots may get to vote in UK election, but our voice counts for nothing against the political needs of England. Self-determination is the only way to rectify that, given Westminster’s institutional intransigence towards its Treaty obligations towards Scotland.

    The Interfaces between the National and International Rule of Law: A Framework Paper

    Click to access methods-lab-pdf-kanetake.pdf

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  3. John
    Please consider in military terms that all the elections to which you refer as battles in a war
    Their is only one battle for us to win and that is The Last One

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  4. The issue raised in this post also appears in a different guise. How often have we heard a Labour Party politician claim that a vote for the SNP in a General Election is a vote for the Tories?

    Once upon a time we benefited in Scotland from an online forensic, investigative journalist/commentator who regularly excoriated Unionist politicians’ and their supportive media’s claims. Recall those better days?

    ‘Why Labour doesn’t need Scotland” – posted on January 10, 2012 on WoS by Rev. Stuart Campbell

    ‘The simple reality of the matter, established indisputably and unambiguously by these stats, is that England and the rest of the UK are and always have been perfectly capable of electing a Labour government if they want one, whatever Scotland does.

    ‘The truth is that Labour doesn’t need Scottish MPs, and an independent Scotland would NOT give the Tories a permanent majority in the remnant UK. Those are the facts, and voters should be deeply mistrustful of anyone who tells them anything else.’

    And on a similar theme: ‘The faithful lie’ – posted on November 19, 2014 on WoS by Rev. Stuart Campbell

    ‘So the demonstrable, empirical truth is that voting SNP rather than Labour in Scotland does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in practice to make Conservative UK governments more likely. Indeed, statistically the exact opposite is true – the years with the lowest SNP votes are the years the Tories do best in and vice versa.’

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    1. Your reference to Wings is an indication of why people have donated tp WOS.
      No matter his tone or choice of vocabulary, WOS has been on the ball throughout.

      Not infallible but none of us are ….. well, apart from you and me.

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  5. While we’re on the matter of Scotland’s economic deficit, on 2 July, 2015 the House of Commons Library published an ‘Insight’ report entitled: ‘How often is the opinion of English MPs overruled by a UK majority?’ Here are some telling findings:

    ‘Under the Labour Government of 2001-05 the majority for English MPs matched with the decision of the UK majority for 99% of divisions; in 2005-10 these majorities matched for 98% of divisions.
    Under the Coalition Government of 2010-15 the majority of English MPs matched the majority of UK MPs for 99% of divisions.’

    So the UK gets what the majority of English MPs want!

    Then there is this: ‘In the 2010-15 Parliament the majority of Scottish MPs voting matched the majority of UK MPs voting for 26% of occasions. Over the same period, Welsh MPs voting matched the majority of UK MPs for 28% of divisions.”

    So: ‘The majority of MPs representing Scottish seats opposed the UK majority in 74% of divisions 2010-15’

    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/matching-majorities-examining-proposals-for-english-votes-for-english-laws/

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    1. Just for completeness, I’ve long found this information ‘interesting’!

      Source: House of Commons Library (2015) England, Scotland, Wales: MPs & voting in the House of Commons, Research Briefing (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn07048/ )

      On divisions (votes) in the Commons:
      ‘Of approximately 3,800 divisions between 26 June 2001 and 26 March 2015, 25 (0.7%) would have concluded differently had the votes of Scottish MPs not been counted. This includes one, on 31 March 2004, that would have been ‘tied’.’

      From the same report we learn:
      ‘Of 19 governments since 1945, 16 (84%) have held a majority among English MPs.’

      ‘Of 19 governments since 1945, nine (47%) have not held a majority in Scotland. Of those governments that have not held a majority in Scotland eight were Conservative administrations and one the 2010-15 coalition government.’

      Of course with the rejection of Labour by voters in Scotland some of these statistics will only get worse – unless we opt for self-determination and soon.

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  6. Let’s invite Iceland to join us in union at Holyrood.
    We will allocate them 2 MSP’s to represent their interests in our parliament.
    Bet that would go down a storm in Iceland and,of course,would have little or no effect on the composition of the Scottish parliament.
    This is the result when a bigger country effectively takes over a smaller one.
    No say for the wee one.

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    1. I remember this from IRVINE WELSH a couple of years ago on twitter:

      ‘Swedes, Norwegians & Danes remain on amicable terms; they trade, co-operate and visit each other socially any time they like. They don’t need a pompous, blustering state called Scandinavia, informing them from Stockholm how wonderful they all are’.

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  7. Now having read all this how can anyone truly intending to vote for Scottish independence actually spout all the nonsense about
    Alex Salmond Nicola Sturgeon wars
    Its like a holywood fantasy
    Created and brought to you by westminster and helpers

    Cut the crap and finish it
    Move on
    Dont allow yourself to be distracted by other nonsense that will definately come our way

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  8. Scotland does not get treated equally under the Barnett Formula. The Westminster unionists do not need Scotland’s votes. So they do not care. London S/E is favoured because of the higher population base. The North/South divide. Perpetuated by Westminster unionists for votes closer to London S/E. Monies taken out of Scotland to fund badly thought out projects (debt) in the South. The Barnett Formula.

    London S/E totally congested and Scotland half empty. The ill thought out Westminster treasury. The UK economy totally out of balance. . People in Scotland had to move to get a job. Until Devolution. Before Devolution there was higher unemployment in Scotland.

    Since 1900, 5million. Scotland’s population has only risen after 2000 Devolution, 5.6million. The Scottish Gov responsible for some of the economy. Limited Devolved powers. Westminster mismanagement still holding Scotland back.

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