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Professor John Robertson OBA
June 2023 Snapshot: As of June 2023, 4,660 individuals [asylum seekers] were receiving Section 95 support, 109 were on Section 98 support, and 554 were on Section 4 support in Scotland. https://www.gov.scot/publications/extending-right-work-asylum-seekers-scotland-evaluation-analysis-policy-options/pages/4/
4-5 000 a year – is that large number of refugees?
From The Irish Famine in a Scottish Perspective 1845-1851 by Géraldine VAUGHAN, in 2015, it is estimated that there were roughly 115,000 Irish incomers to Scotland for those six years.1
So, around 20 000 per year?
From the NRS, in the ten years from 2012 to 2022 (latest data), around 100 000 arrived in Scotland from other parts of the UK, increasing sharply from 3 000 in 2012 to 12 500 in 2022. This trend seems likely to be due to worsening austerity in other parts of the UK unprotected by SNP policies, on child poverty, HE fees and prescription charges, lower crime, a better-performing NHS, low cost ferry travel, and contrary to those scare stories about higher taxation in Scotland.2
Net migration out of England to the rest of the UK, soared to 33 701 in 2023, according to the ONS.3 It seems likely that most of these migrants will have chosen Scotland. Add these figures to probably increased numbers in 2024, further increased numbers in 2025 as Labour reveal the full extent of Austerity 2, and the flood from rUK into Scotland will be worthy of the same kind of academic studies, the Irish Famine migration attracts.
Sources:
- https://journals.openedition.org/mimmoc/1763?lang=en#:~:text=19%20It%20nevertheless%20remains%20difficult,incomers%20for%20those%20six%20years.
- https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/population/population-estimates/mid-year-population-estimates/mid-2011-to-mid-2021-rebased
- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/13/boom-internal-migration-britons-quit-england-for-scotland/
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Astonishing discovery John. The quality of your data research and divergent thinking adds daily to our perspective and comprehension of reality in Scotland as opposed to the endless gaslit fog from the UK state. All strength.
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Thanks Fraxxyyzz.
No relation of the great Frazey Ford ?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=frazey+ford+songs&&mid=911B2E95178D8A931BEC911B2E95178D8A931BEC&&FORM=VRDGAR
John
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Frazey Ford ? Not knowing.
Oh, ‘to see oursels’
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I love the soulful background horns
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Nothing really changes. Anything England can’t deal with gets dumped on Scotland.
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Can`t deal with ? We closed our business in England, came here and invested in Scotland, built both a house and a new business here from scratch by ourselves, so we made sure we added to our local community not took away, created jobs, brought children and are higher rate taxpayers now, with the whole family all hard yes voters for independence. But if you want to call that “dumping” then I think you might find businesses and talent can leave, just as quickly as it came, regardless of independence, and Scotland can return to being a nation with a rapidly aging and declining population very quickly indeed.
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You’ve done well for yourself then? The move was a good one for you and also for Scotland. And, no, I wouldn’t call that dumping. I’d call that making a good choice. But if you and your family are yes voters, and I’m very happy to hear that, you will be well aware of the problems we face here.
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The tragedy is that in fact Scotland’s younger population have had to leave Scotland in the past in vast numbers while the English had full control over Scotland. 😦 Hopefully not so much now. Sounds like you were lucky, not everyone can afford to build a house, or earn enough to pay higher tax.
Of course the benefits of living in Scotland, drinkable publicly owned water, free prescriptions, free bus travel for age up to 22, and over 60’s, free university tuition saving students what, £50k, and many other benefits of living in Scotland.
Also I think kelticgirl was referring to the fact that Eng/London/Govs ‘mess of Brexit and resulting in more asylum seekers whereby France no longer stops people at their border, so the EngGov are only too happy for Scotland to take the slack off of them. Problem being, EngGov have cut back the ‘block grant’, takes Scotland’s vast resources, sends crumbs back and so Scotland may well struggle to cope, with limited economic levers.
The EngGov will be delighted at that of course. It will make for SNP bad in the media.
Very pleased to know you and family are pro independence. 🙂
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