For the umpteenth time, there can be no Grenfell in Scotland

Only on Reporting Scotland tonight:

Ministers are accused of ‘dragging their heels’ in replacing Grenfell-style cladding in Scotland. The bulk of the removal work is earmarked for 2025 and the programme was initially expected to be rolled out this year. More than 100 public buildings are believed to have the highly flammable material. Scottish Labour says the Scottish Government is not moving fast enough on the issue.

This is, of course, just another feed from Scottish Labour and an opportunity for BBC Scotland to fulfil its duty to platform Unionist parties uncritically.

Regular readers will have moved on by now but, just in case, here’s the truth of the matter again.

There need be no concerns in Scotland. Why? Here’s why:

A Grenfell incident cannot happen here because of our more strict building regulations.

The evidence is recent from a fire in 2021 which was contained within one floor and had no casualties:

According to BBC Scotland earlier two weeks ago:

Residents of a multi-storey block of flats in Glasgow had to be evacuated after a fire broke out on the 17th floor. Fire crews were called to the block on Lincoln Avenue in the Knightswood area of the city at 04:08. Residents were safely removed from the building by the fire service and there were no casualties. A total of nine fire appliances attended the incident which took about five hours to bring under full control. A spokeswoman for Scottish Fire and Rescue Service said: “Operations control mobilised nine appliances to Lincoln Avenue where the fire was affecting the 17th floor of the multi-storey block of flats.” The spokeswoman said residents from the 17th and 18th floors were removed and the fire has been extinguished.

No towering inferno; how did that happen we wonder?

Apologies to regulars but I see from my Twitter poll this morning that 20% only started with TuS in 2021.

Onlookers wondered why the fire did not spread to other floors. Here are some reasons we posted last year:

The Chimney Effect

This cannot happen in Scotland

As I understand it, it is not so much the flammability of the material used as the construction of the external cladding to deny the spread of fire via a chimney effect.

Reader Gordon Darge wrote for us in January 2020:

As a chartered architect in Scotland for 40 years I can confirm that the Building Regulations Technical Standards Scotland have for two decades required cavity fire barriers

2.4 Cavities
Mandatory Standard
Standard 2.4
Every building must be designed and constructed in such a way that in the event of an outbreak of fire within the building, the spread of fire and smoke within cavities in its structure and fabric is inhibited.

This includes for example, around the head, jambs and sill of an external door or window opening, at all floor levels and building corners etc. to prevent the spread of fire in building cavities. This would have prevented the spread of the fire at Grenfell Tower.

This is difficult and expensive to achieve and I can only guess that in England they did not follow the Scottish model because Westminster and the Tories were led by the vested interests of big business, property developers and large construction firms.

For anyone wanting more info see:

And in December 2019, we were able to report:

In a parliamentary question at Holyrood on Monday, David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Scottish Labour) asked the Scottish Government what plans it has to ban combustible materials on the outside of high-rise or high-risk buildings.

The answer was reassuring contrast to the lack of comparable action in England:

From 1 May 2005, Scottish building regulations have required cladding on domestic buildings with any storey over 18 metres to be non-combustible or to pass a large-scale fire test (BS 8414 and BR 135).

The Scottish Government have just completed a review of building regulations. Advice from the national and international panel of experts was that there was no need to change mandatory standard 2.7 that requires fire spread on the external walls of a building to be inhibited. Guidance that came into force on 1 October embraces a range of measures to improve fire safety which will make Scotland’s high-rise buildings even safer. These include:

• Further restricting the use of combustible materials on taller buildings, applying provisions that previously applied to buildings over 18 metres to all buildings over 11 metres to align with fire-fighting from the ground;

• Tighter controls over the combustibility of cladding systems on hospitals, residential care buildings, entertainment and assembly buildings regardless of building height;

• Introducing evacuation sound alerts, floor and dwelling indicator signs and two escape stairs in all new high-rise domestic buildings.

We have also made a commitment to introduce a mandatory requirement to install sprinkler systems in all new build flats, certain multi-occupancy dwellings and social housing from 2021.

And before that:

  1. From the Scottish Government news website in February 2019:

‘New rules to reduce deaths in household fires have been announced today, with improved standards introduced for fire and smoke alarms in Scottish homes.  The improved standards will mean every home in the country must have a smoke alarm fitted in the living room or lounge, and in circulation spaces such as hallways and landings. The changes also mean every kitchen must have a heat alarm, and the alarms will have to be interlinked so they can be heard throughout the property. There must also be a carbon monoxide alarm where there are fixed combustion appliances. The new rules mean the standard which currently applies to private rented property and newbuilds is being extended to all homes in Scotland. The regulations come after a consultation carried out following the tragic events at Grenfell Tower in London in June 2017.’

  1. From BBC UK News in December 2018:

‘Fire safety checks across England have fallen by 42% over the last seven years, according to the new watchdog for fire and rescue services. HM Inspectorate of Constabulary, Fire and Rescue Services says brigades do a good job in emergencies, but amid cuts have reduced “vital” prevention work. The watchdog said the number of audits carried out by firefighters dropped from 84,575 in 2010-11 to 49,423 in 2017-18.’

  1. From the Scottish Government, published in August 2018:

‘The number of fire safety audits carried out in 2015/16 was 9,829. Most of the premises audited by the SFRS have relatively adequate fire safety measures and are categorised as ‘broadly compliant’ (9,180 audits: 93%). While 79% (7,779 audits) of the premises audited have average or low levels of relative risk.’

In Scotland 2015/16, 9 827 safety audits were carried out. England has 10 times the population and so, all things being equal, might have been expected to have seen 98 270 fire safety audits. However, in 2017/18, England saw only 49 423 fire safety audits, just over half the number. Fire safety audits in Scotland are thus almost twice as common, per head of population, in Scotland as in England.

Why? Cost-cutting Tory local authorities? Cost-cutting Tory central government?

  1. Two earlier reports perhaps still of interest here:

‘Stricter [fire] safety rules leave Scotland out of danger’ The English media spot the difference. Did BBC Scotland?

‘High rise fires in Scotland at lowest level in eight years


8 thoughts on “For the umpteenth time, there can be no Grenfell in Scotland

  1. BBC Scotland running in default mode. No research or reasonable journalistic standards. No attempt to clarify or inform.

    Just lets put it out there, regardless of how foolish we will look or behave, as we can get away with it.

    Liked by 2 people

    1. “.. regardless of how foolish we will look or behave, as we can get away with it.”

      It makes sense strategically really, if the organisation has a mission to promote and protect the Union. It knows that many of its regular listeners/viewers/readers fall within the undecided or so-called ‘soft no’ categories of the relevant electorate – when it comes to the question of Scotland’s self-determination.

      The primary aim may be not to convert the ‘yes’-convinced to ‘no’ but to DAMPEN DOWN or STOP momentum towards ‘yes’ – introduce doubt; promote fear of uncertainty; omit positives – in terms of Scotland’s assets, of the capabilities of Scotland’s people and institutions, of Scotland’s more than sufficient capacity and preparedness to be a ‘normal’ independent nation state with good neighbourly relations.

      Consistently fail to provide context, fail to provide perspective. And remain silent – or opt to amplify newspaper headlines – as others without scruples just blatantly denigrate the community supportive of independence.

      Liked by 3 people

  2. The prejudicial framing of “Grenfell-style cladding” is as preposterous as Scottish Labour’s “More than 100 public buildings are believed to have the highly flammable material”.

    NOWHERE is “highly flammable” material used as cladding on a building, whatever Scottish Labour choose to believe.

    The mechanics of the fire which made Grenfell a disaster are well understood as you have outlined, but even were the regulations identical, it is enforcement which will prove pivotal to the Grenfell Inquiry.

    In Scotland neither Building Inspectors nor Fire Officers can be bypassed in proposals for and execution of construction works including retrofit cladding.
    This was NOT the case in Tory run Kensington.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. The BBC are trying to distract from the catastrophic consequences of privatisation and Brexit in England, where raw sewage is being dumped into their rivers and sea.
    The right wing rags’ front pages about eating mouldy food, and hunger pangs being great and telling people to stop drinking so much water, (I watch artist taxi driver, who supports Scottish independence) are an indication of how far the British nationalists in Westminster are willing to go, off the rails and off the scale poverty for millions.

    It’s a bizarre situation for a country, Scotland, to be banned, (by the country next door) from having their own broadcasting rights. It’s dictatorial to say the least.

    Liked by 1 person

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.