Figures DO NOT show booster gap in high-risk groups

There’s such a big disconnect between the text and the headline, the student on day one of a media studies course would think they’d spotted a deliberate error put there by the teacher.

First, note the wee sub-heading under the photo?

But, then back to the scare:

A significant number of Scots most at risk from Covid are still waiting for a booster jab despite receiving their second dose more than six months ago.

Just over 616,000 people in the top priority vaccine groups are now due their booster – but only 511,807 jabs have been given, figures show.

And then back to the facts of the matter suggested in the sub under the photo:

The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advised in September there should be an interval of at least six months between second and third doses:

Despite that, the rest of the report goes on to then forget about the JCVI, worry about supposed fading immunity and repeating the notion of a gap.

Let’s be clear, the JCVI said:

The JCVI advises that the booster vaccine dose is offered no earlier than 6 months after completion of the primary vaccine course, in the same order as during Phase 1.

People vaccinated early during Phase 1 will have received their second dose approximately 6 months ago. Therefore, it would be appropriate for the booster vaccine programme to begin in September 2021, as soon as operationally practical.

Early data in older individuals from Public Health England (PHE) suggests that the protection provided by vaccines against severe COVID-19 decreases gradually over time.

Insufficient time has passed to know what levels of protection might be expected 6 to 12 months after the primary course. Taking a precautionary position, the JCVI considers that on balance it is preferable to maintain a high level of protection in vulnerable adults throughout winter.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advice-on-covid-19-booster-vaccination

So, everyone should be done no earlier than six months after dose 2. Doesn’t that mean that everyone will by definition wait more than 6 months unless we imagine a system where hundreds of thousands can be done on the exact date, six months after dose 2?

And, see that protection against severe Covid decreases gradually? Gradually? So, you’re not in lethal danger at 6 months and 1 day.

Indeed research from the US is quite encouraging:

A series of new studies, including two led by Ellebedy, suggests that mRNA vaccines like those from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna trigger the immune system to establish long-term protection against severe COVID-19 — protection that likely will last several years or even longer, Ellebedy says.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/30/1032520934/immunity-to-covid-19-could-last-longer-than-youd-think

It’s important to be clear that this research looked at the mRNA type which the much politically praised ‘Oxford’ AZ vaccine is not. However, most over 70s and the vulnerable in the UK got Pfizer, I think.

12 thoughts on “Figures DO NOT show booster gap in high-risk groups

  1. BBC, gutter press.
    The ‘Oxford’ vaccine it seems is less effective over time, than other ones which do not insist on using country of origin in the name, so yes the English government better get those boosters done to avoid many more people dying over the winter, if Johnson can be bothered that is. He muttered, at an event for school children that he attended in person, about climate change, it might be a good idea to simply ‘feed some of the people to the animals’ to reduce the human population. I guess there must be a few hungry lions in UK zoos, so failing Covid, that’s always an option, kill a few more hundred thousand with one stone eh! Roar!!!! Argh!!

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  2. I got AZ but

    The BNT162b2 and the mRNA-1273 vaccines are COVID-19 mRNA vaccines developed by Pfizer and BioNTech and Moderna, respectively. They each contain the genetic code (mRNA) of the spike protein, which is found on the surface of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Once inside the body, the spike protein is produced, causing the immune system to recognise it and initiate an immune response.

    The ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine was developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca. The vaccine works by delivering the genetic code of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to the body’s cells, similarly to the mRNA vaccines. Once inside the body, the spike protein is produced, causing the immune system to recognise it and initiate an immune response.

    Both of these create antibodies which are not effective on Delta, however T-cell response is good once you are infected. Memory T cells last a long time.

    Some vulnerable however may still not survive infection in spite of this which is why suppression is still a good idea.

    Double vaccination is still not done for children. Single dose is not enough.

    Booster roll-out is being hyped by UK gov instead of vaccinating children and applying further mitigations.
    ABC Scotland of course backs this policy.

    https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/covid-19-vaccines

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  3. The BBC Scotland report MUST be correct because it came from the highly regarded epidemiologist, virologist, public health expert and total arsehole Jackie Baillie. Would a reputable rigorously non partisan news organisation like BBC Scotland, quote the words of. charlatan?

    Of course they would. That is their job as propagandists.

    PS my wife and I and many of our neighbours in the same age group had our boosters on Sunday, just over 6 months from our second vaccinations.

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  4. Thanks for the clarification John. It is all about words and whether or not you are able to read accurately.
    Personally my wife and I got our boosters yesterday in a huge hall in Perth. There were lots of people giving the vaccine injections. They were getting through people at an amazing rate whilst being accurate, helpful and professional.
    I had a two minute wait and asked the nurse if she had seen Jackie Ballie’s comments on how crap the NHS is. She smiled, said she had and commented the health service members were not amused by being undermined by political people. I thought she was very polite.

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  5. Aye, there was a clip of Kaye Adams (guests Helen Mc Ardle (Herald) and a Dr Simon Williams (Swansea Uni)) trying to boost this nonsense on Indyref Two’s Youtube channel yesterday – It was when they tried to make a big thing out of the lack of publicity compared to last time that the tea was almost ejected over the laptop again.
    Those in charge know who to contact, when and where, and folks have been getting notifications and boosters calmly and efficiently as commented here and elsewhere, so what on earth were they jabbering about?

    I imagine there will be publicity nearer the end of this phase as a mop up exercise (letters gone astray, mislaid, forgotten about, or deliberately ignored so they could phone Kay, or Jackie…), but why get folks worried now ?

    Presumably the “significant number” are those known to Labour heid-bummers, or locked in the cellar in this scaremongering nonsense, hopefully it will be dawning on Prof Watterson what he’s been roped into, a propaganda game of the worst sort.

    What I find particularly reprehensible is that their target is the most vulnerable, who frankly don’t need this nonsense on top of existing worries.

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    1. Every strategy by the Scottish Gornment and NHS Scotland has had a Kaye Adams Programme where she says in a whining voice, “Isn’t there a lack of clarity in all this? Text us if you think there is a lack of clarity. Douglas Ross (or heid bummer of the hospitality industry), why do you think there is a lack of clarity?” etc

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