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Professor John Robertson OBA
In the Record today, the above and:
Even with Covid in mind, Record View says closing the poverty-related attainment gap in schools is yet another key SNP promise the party has failed to deliver.
They have just not bothered or deliberately avoided the evidence easily accessed in the public domain
From the Scottish Government’s Literacy and numeracy standards reach record high report in December 2024:
The proportion of pupils achieving the expected level in literacy and numeracy across primary and secondary schools has reached a new high, officials figures show.
For numeracy, a record 80.3% of pupils across P1, P4 and P7 reached expected levels, while S3 also reached a new high of 90.3%. For literacy, achievement is also now at a record high in both primary (74%) and secondary (88.3%).
The attainment gap between young people from the most and least deprived areas meeting standards in literacy has also reached a new low, according to the latest Achievement of Curriculum for Excellence levels 2023-24 (ACEL) statistics.
In England, on 9 July 2024 [latest data], for 11 year-olds [P7]:
[Only] 61% of pupils reached the expected standard in all of reading, writing and maths, up from 60% in 2023. This is below 2019 attainment, where 65% of pupils met the standard.
Direct comparison with education in other countries is not always reliable but had this stark contrast [20-30% better] operated in the opposite direction, with England at 80% and Scotland at 61%, you can be sure our media would be all over it.
Also, ignored:
A game-changer in education, the narrowing of the attainment gaps and the increased attainment of the most disadvantaged
To my mind, after nearly 40 years in education, more important than narrowing gaps is increased attainment for the most disadvantaged:
At SCQF level 7, the gap in 2009/10, two years after the SNP first came to power, was 24.1 and by 2021/22 it was still 22.2, though down from 25 in the previous year. If you have limited understating of statistics or cynically only wish to accuse the SNP Government of failure, these statistics hide the true nature of change.
In 2009/10 only 4.7% of those in the most disadvantaged 20% had achieved at this level but by 2021/22, the figure was 10.3%, more than doubling in only 12 years. Remember also, that 20% means nearly 3 000 pupils every year.
In the above I play the closing the gap game because it’s the only game the MSM will play. Here’s what I really think about closing attainment gaps:
In my 50 years researching and thinking, talking with colleagues across school and higher education, I’ve never met anyone who thinks we should be worrying about or trying to do anything about narrowing the class-based gap.
Only in Albania and Maoist China were the gaps narrowed, reversed even, by only allowing the poor to get an education and sending children of the middle classes and the rich to work in the fields and factories.
It’s a kind of madness but opposition parties and their media pals subscribe to it happily
We, IN education, all think that unless you’re going to, like those mad dictatorships, segregate on the basis of class, any enhancement of school education will inevitably and enthusiastically be exploited by ambitious middle class kids and their parents. The disadvantaged WILL do better but so will the more advantaged and the gap will still be largely the same.
What you can and should do is worker harder to improve the attainment within the disadvantaged group and, hey, what do you think has been happening there, these last 10 to 15 years, but totally ignored by critics?
Using data from Summary Statistics for Attainment and Initial Leaver Destinations, No. 5: 2023 Edition published in February 2023 :
In 2009/10 only 27.2% had achieved at Level 6 (Higher and above) and only 4.7% at Level 7 (Advanced Higher), of those in the most disadvantaged 20% had achieved at this level, but by 2021/22, the figures were 46.6% and 10.3%, almost and more than doubling in only 12 years. Remember also, that 20% means nearly 3 000 pupils every year.
Over the same period 28.8% of those in the most advantaged 20% had achieved at level 7 and by 2021/22, the figure was 38.8%, a smaller in percentage but larger in actual numbers, increase.
So, despite the major improvement among those from the most deprived 20%, there had also been a significant improvement among the least deprived 20%.
The attainment gap is a largely artificial and mostly political idea with no meaning for those it describes. What really matters is the massive improvement in the life chances of those in the most disadvantaged 20%. It’s not enough, of course, but this fact relates to the real experience of thousands rather than that of the media and opposition party opportunism.
There have been similar improvements in attainment for the other three groups between the most and the least disadvantaged. The gaps between them and the least disadvantaged are narrower and, of course, of no interest to the media.

” They have just not bothered or deliberately avoided the evidence easily accessed in the public domain ” – No John, they’re trying to divert attention from the latest poll showing Labour electoral support in freefall, Ipsos I think – I never thought I’d see Labour being ‘trumped’ by a Tory establishment wide-boy such as Farage, but such is the despise for Labour Central and the ‘it’s just politics’ of Anas wi’ teeth.
It is also the 10th anniversary of the Records ‘explanation’ (arse covering) of without doubt the most infamous “Vow” in recent Scottish political history, from the Wrecker itself, as per Wikipedia – ” The Vow was published in the Daily Record,[5] one of the main tabloid newspapers in Scotland that also backed a No vote in the referendum. The explanation and background to the publication of The Vow was explained in the Daily Record itself one year after the referendum when it outlined that following a poll showing the ‘Yes’ side ahead, it was felt that firm promises of more powers were required from the ‘No’ side.[6] “
Add in what you’ve already alluded to over the Emma Caldwell Public Inquiry with regard to potential political interference in Strathclyde Police’s inquiries at the time, can you really be surprised by such artifice https://archive.ph/ihBtR
Labour in Scotland are in deep shit and sinking – That’s a huge problem for the Wrecker…
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Excellent comment Bob.
Succinct and very very much to the point , brilliant.
( I wish I had your obvious skill in making a point so well in such a concise and precise manner).
I’m a rambler aka waffler , for sure Ha Ha
Liz S
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Life long learning. 25% mature students left out of the statistics. No attainment gap. People go to uni later. Or change career direction.
Scotland has lower fees. Best education system in the world.
The Tories (ConDems) cut education funding £6Billion a year. Clegg betrayed students.
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