Only a sub-poll but latest confirms six-poll trend as SNP open up massive 18 point lead over Labour

Four days ago, I could write: Six sub-polls suggest modest SNP recovery, growing Reform threat and ongoing crisis for the others leading to good result in the constituencies for the SNP at:

https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2024/12/01/six-sub-polls-suggest-modest-snp-recovery-growing-reform-threat-and-ongoing-crisis-for-the-others-leading-to-good-result-in-the-constituencies-for-the-snp/

Today, from Find Out Now, the UK figures put Labour in third place with 23%, behind Reform at 24% and the Cons at 26%.

The Scottish sub-set of only 118, has SNP39%, Labour 21%, Cons 13%, Reform, Greens and Lib Dems at 8%. If repeated in May 2026, this could give SNP an overall majority. Early days I know but still good to get this kind of wee boost.

https://findoutnow.co.uk/blog/voting-intention-4th-dec-2024/

7 thoughts on “Only a sub-poll but latest confirms six-poll trend as SNP open up massive 18 point lead over Labour

  1. “SNP open up massive 18 point lead over Labour”

    Is it any wonder .

    At last the chancers aka Labour are now fully exposed.

    We all remember how critical they , Labour, were towards the Tory UK government when Labour were the supposed official opposition party at WM.

    Also how Labour said they, unlike the Tories, had all of the solutions to ease the pain and suffering endured by people within the UK .

    Now they, Labour, hold power as the new UK government and still our energy bills have not been reduced, WASPI women are still getting nowt, Pensioners are losing their WFP, 2 child cap still in place and Brexit is still continuing as a Tory policy under a Labour UK government.

    I saw this observation from someone online via Twitter (X):

    “CHANGE BEGINS NOW” @KeirStarmer said in July”.

    “Now, after a terrible start to his Premiership, he’s having a reset with a ‘Plan For Change’”.

    To think how many of them within the Labour party criticised Jeremy Corbyn for having lost them the 2019 GE , now under Sir Keir Starmer as Labour leader, they are already losing the confidence of the people who elected them barely 4 months ago Ha Ha.

    Labour party the pound shop Tory party failing again, mainly because they were never a real alternative to the Tory party under Sir Keir Starmer, as they were and still are a poor and cheap imitation of the Tories, who like the Tories, have failed to serve the people as they are way too preoccupied with serving only those wealthy people who donated to their party coffers.

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    1. Indeed , and there seems to be a pattern devolving via various polls that show both Starmer & Labour are losing public support (though winning the GE was not via any actual huge support for Labour via the public but was very much an opposition to a continued Tory UK government ).

      I noted that Jo Coburn on politics Live was questioning how the Scottish government could afford to do the things they have pledged to do to mitigate Labour UK government policies in the Scottish Budget.

      Strange that.

      Because Politics Live allow pro UK politicians to often state on their programme that the SNP, as the Scottish government, are not doing enough for the Scottish public as in not spending more on public services.

      A damned if they do and a damned if they do not situation.

      I mean if Jo Coburn thinks the money is not there for the SNP to mitigate UK government’s cruel policies then why does she allow, and sometimes join in, with blaming the SNP for not using (what is according to her and others) non existent money to help public services in Scotland.

      We just cannot win with them can we, but they do try to be too clever sometimes , as the money is either sufficient , as in exists, for the SNP to help people in Scotland or it is not, it cannot be both.

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  2. Imagine it getting far higher in two years 2026 Holyrood election. A mandate for Independence (Ref). Another massive victory. Before another GE massive victory. Voters need to vote out the unionists. It is likely happening.

    No one wants children, pensioners and the vulnerable starving or in hardship. People want something done about it. Not held under a dangerous nuclear threat. Or threat to the economy. Trident dumped in Scotland secretly and illegally by Kennedy (abuser) and MacMillan without permission. A danger to Scotland and the world. A total waste of time and monies. Illegal warmongers at Westminster. Wasting Scotland’s revenues and resources, that could be better spent.

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  3. Labour fanboy Ian Dunt on Blue Sky Social commented on the 5 December about Starmer’s speech that Starmer made that same day about Labour’s “Plan for Change” reset:

    “The PM’s speech was sensible and well delivered, but I felt a mounting sense of frustration that the government was still talking about what it would do rather than what it had done

    I added bold onto his comment, but yes what he is saying is true , as in so far it has been mostly all talk and no action on the “Change” that they promised the public prior to the GE, and that is why some voters are now waking up to that which we on here already knew, as did others, that Labour are no better than or any different to the Tories.

    He, Dunt, also added this yesterday “Same with 13,000 police officers. I mean, fine. But what is it you are trying to achieve with these officers? And on what basis did you conclude that this was the level of additional staffing required to do so”?

    Then he added “I’m not saying they don’t have answers to these questions. They have some serious people working in No.10 with a strong track record. It’s more that this is the meat of the issue – the quality of the targets, rather than their achievability or the political advantages of announcing them”

    Well Ian might be assuming that Labour, via Keir Starmer , does have all the answers to the questions but he is also aware that no answers via any actual positive action is being applied by Labour as the new UK government.

    Is this not what we got from the Tories where they would tell the public that X amount of police would be recruited, X amount of new Hospitals would be built etc etc but the reality was that they, the Tories, failed to enact much of that which they promised, and indeed in respect to Police officers in England, this was not an additional amount, but it was an amount of new officers to replace the same amount that they, the Tories, had formerly cut in the Police services in England.

    I think once uber Labour supporters like Ian Dunt begin to question the Labour party ( so soon after being elected as the new UK government) then you know that your own observations in respect to Labour as the new UK government have been valid, as in that so far , they have said a H of a lot but done nowt positive in the way of any real change.

    In fact the cruel actions and the bad decisions that they, Labour, have made up to now are very much a continuation of and not a change to that which we had with the former Tory UK government , where the least able and most vulnerable were expected to take up the slack of a post Brexit struggling UK economy , while the wealthy were safe in the knowledge that they would not be contributing their fair share to help their UK.

    Sir Keir Starmer told the UK public that if they elected Labour as their new UK government then they, Labour, “would hit the ground running”.

    So far they, Labour, have indeed now “hit the ground” but they have then failed to get up and get moving with the “Change” that they promised the public would both see and feel with them, Labour, as a new UK government in charge of their UK.

    Talk is cheap and I am afraid that is what we now have with Labour in charge, incessant talking about what they supposdley want to do but supposedly cannot do now because of a so called “financial black hole” and also because of the former Tory UK government.

    Their , Labour’s, (non) solution to this is that the least able , as in the most vulnerable, among the UK public should then be made to still suffer more under a new Labour UK government and also lose (sacrifice) those benefits which they need most while , like the Tories, Labour do not want the rich to contribute their fair share to also help (mainly because the rich are needed only to contribute their money as donations to the Labour party).

    This is a now a very hard lesson to have learnt for those who voted for Labour in July this year within Scotland , one truly hopes now that they, who did vote for Labour in teh recent GE within Scotland, have all now indeed learnt a lesson on the folly of their voting for Labour, which one hopes will not be repeated as a mistake by them in 2026.

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  4. BBC Website Wales:

    A Labour MP’s parents transferred ownership of farm land to one of their sons days before changes to inheritance tax rules were announced.

    Questions have been asked about whether Mid and South Pembrokeshire MP Henry Tufnell gave information to his parents about the proposed changes”

    Coincidence in timing or what ?

    Why did they , his parents, do this just before the announcement on changes to inheritance tax rules especially when their son is a new Labour MP with a new Labour UK government?

    Also since announcing this change in Inheritance Tax rules Labour have been fending off criticism by Farmers in the UK and so defending their action as a UK government upon this.

    A spokesperson for the MP stated “”The actions taken by Henry’s parents were based on professional advice from qualified financial advisers, reflecting prudent and responsible management of their family affairs.”

    Really ?

    So then that is what all farmers could have also done to also avoid potential changes to “inheritance tax rules” being applied to their children/heirs , and had they also done this too then they, I am sure, would have been criticised by the Labour party for trying to avoid their children/heirs paying inheritance tax via any Labour changes to the rules on this.

    Will this story grow arms and legs and so have consequences for Labour and this MP or is that still only a situation that the BBC and others apply to the SNP ?

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