Clear message for Greens and Alba on how to vote if they want any future at all

This is a quick post. I think the above numbers speak for themselves, clearly.

22 thoughts on “Clear message for Greens and Alba on how to vote if they want any future at all

  1. greens have already lost my second vote after this weeks shenanigans and I won’t be changing my mind whatever way they vote – and as for Alba – who are they again?

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  2. To be honest, i wouldn’t give either of them my 2nd vote anyway.
    I regard it as a failsafe for my preferred party – should they fail in the constituency vote, having given regional votes to any other could prove disastrous.

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  3. I emailed P Harvie did he expect the FM to wait 4 weeks for his members to make up their mind regarding the BH agreement giving the MSM a field day saying the Greens were in charge just think about that I also said no longer he would get my second vote.Maybe if enough of us were to email telling him they same he might stop and think I have my doubts as I think Lorna Slater is the real boss Harvie just the figure head.

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  4. I’m still onboard with an SNP 1 Green 2 vote, here in the NE, but that could change in the next few weeks.

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    1. The thing is the system is skewed, because isn’t it the case that both votes SNP does not guarantee an SNP win…indeed can result in a bad outcome. I still don’t get the logistics of the system in Scotland’s elections, and I follow lots of political blogs etc. Maybe it’s my ‘secondary’ substandard English education 😦

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  5. Thought I’d read and heard the worst of it with BBC Scotland’s nonsense over ending the BHA being taken as gospel in the main UK media, but C4’s awful Kathryn Samson clearly decided to go dredging the bottom in yesterday’s interview with HY…

    The set-up was HY’s previous attacks on Tory PMs not lasting long, all as scripted on her phone, but then she delivered her scripted gotcha…

    • KS – Are you at risk of being Scotland’s Liz Truss ?
    • HY – Eh, no… It’s been over a year since I’ve been in office (KS interrupts with the punchline)
    • KS – How would you rate your chances of outlasting a lettuce ?

    🙄

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        1. When will it dawn on Ch4 News that their woeful, and probably deliberately poor reporting of things Scottish is damaging their reputation. When you see reports of something on your doorstep and you see how skewed and just plain wrong they are then you start to look at the rest of their output and begin to wonder if the same standards, or lack thereof, are affecting that output. Then their credibility is shot and CH4 News is getting dangerously close to that point.

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          1. Agreed – They seem prepared to trash their reputation by not putting a stop to it, much as did BBC over their Scotland regional station.
            Even though Jenkins has been promoted from regional, I still regard his output with scepticism due to ‘borderline lying’ when reporting on matters Scottish.
            Kathryn Samson’s ‘reporting’ style would be more suited to the Sun.

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    1. As usual the MSM tries to twist things and doesn’t do their fact checking. If you discount that stuffed balloon [now Lord] Jim Wallace (Lib Dum) who was twice caretaker FM, once for 16 days and once for 19 days; there was [now Lord] Henry McLeish (LieBour) who was FM for 1 year and 12 days!!

      Humza Yousaf became FM on 29th March 2023, so as of todays date (27th April 2024 he has served as FM for 1 year and 30 days – msm peddling mistruths once again

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      1. Samson knew all that, that’s why she constructed the deliberately insulting false equivalence, although I imagine her tutors at Pacific Quay were chortling over ‘mission accomplished’.
        I’ve a lot of time for Matt Frei’s approach to honest journalism, but not condemning that contrived nonsense from Samson did him no favours…

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  6. The SNP gave the Greens the opportunity to show that they were a party ready for government, unfortunately recent action by the Greens have shown that they are still primarily a collective of single issue groups.

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  7. Remember the way that the devolved parliament was set up (by westmonster) that no party should ever gain a majority, ever since the SNP had their landslide victory London have been creating chaos (in their media) to effectively end Scottish devolution……..don’t let them win, we must all vote, both votes, in any Holyrood elections…..for SNP…..to stuff it up London and their reckless branch offices…..show them we will not take THEIR chaos any longer…..let’s get a majority SNP back and stop the unionist twisted hatred of our people and country…….same goes in the general election, en masse and united vote for the SNP and end their crazy crazy non union, we all know that they are terrified of a strong independent Scotland, one that would be rich a powerhouse in Europe……LET US ALL UNITE AND VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE SNP AND FOR THE FUTURE OF SCOTLAND!!!

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  8. The Scottish Parliament was originally designed so that no one party would be able to have a majority in Holyrood,and thus the government of Scotland would be run by a coalition of parties agreeing on issues, as is the case in most other European parliaments, other than Westminster and Belarus!

    It thus seems a bit strange that currently, the Tories and Labour are calling for the resignation of the leader of the SNP administration, because he does not command a majority in the Parliament.

    Surely this party situation is what the Parliament was designed for.

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    1. Since the SNP got a democratic majority, in the face of the way Westminster set it up (stitched up), the opposition parties have disagreed with everything and anything the SNP do, even although, outwith the Tories, some msps have voted for SNP bills. The Scottish Parliament was never set up to work as a proper Parliament with proper powers, always having to bow and scrape for any scraps that might be thrown our way, the only reason we have managed to pass so many worthwhile bills that make a real difference to Scottish life is the SNP and their hard fought for long list of achievements…….not Labour or Tories or Liberals……remember when the LibLabs changed absolutely nothing when in power, the wrecked the Scottish parliament, which was probably their end goal all along!!! SNP for first and second votes for me, I want a clear Majority for Independance, Labour and the rest quite clearly can’t and should not be trusted with Scotland’s future….under them we won’t have one…..it will be back to a parish council the one they gave us, easily controlled by wastemonster, Scotland will be put back in their box never to be opened again.

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    2. You have a good point there.
      Is it not the case the Scottish parliament system (set up by the country next door via their English establishment/government!) is just a form of the D’Hondt system, it differs from other voting systems of the same name in some ways?
      Why would the English establishment want to have a seemingly fairer, more equal system in Scotland, other than to ensure a real Scottish based party, the SNP in this case, working in the interests of the people of Scotland, would not be able to be a fully functioning majority party.
      The British nationalist parties really want to oust the SNP, abiding by the system THEY set up in Scotland is not in their interests at present, not at all. When Scotland secures independence perhaps a new more up to date system can be introduced depending consultation with the voting public?

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  9. i will not give my second vote to greens again i will divert it to ALBA who whether or not you like it , are in fact a Scottish independence party , some people hated Alex Salmond before the ten lying toadies and hate him more since he was found not guilty , i think he is a hero

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  10. My knee-jerk reaction is don’t give the Greens the 2nd vote but…

    What are the alternatives?

    3 different flavours of tory? – all pro-union and taking orders from their WM bosses? Plus they’re not even proper Scottish parties, just accounting branches of their WM HQ.

    Alba? - Far too right wing for my comfort with too much of a ‘my way or the highway’ attitude. Plus, not one of them has yet stood for election in their own right. Also, if they’re actually as indy first as they claim, why are they trying what (at least has the appearance of) political blackmail against the leader of the only party big enough to worry WM?

    Then there’s AS proclaimed by Regan to be “the most important man in the Scottish Parliament” due to the fact she’s there wielding ‘the Power of the Vote’. Ugh!

    Not use the 2nd vote at all? - Doesn’t that risk the very people I don’t want to get in getting in?

    I’ll have to think about this very carefully…

    I don’t think anybody handled the episode particularly well. Both had some party members on their backs. HY came across as far too abrupt in his dismissal and the Greens’ knees jerked as badly as mine in their initial response. Which was understandable, if not what would be expected from more seasoned politicians.

    I do hope that, if they come to the meeting he’s asked for, he’ll make some sort of apology for the way it was done (though not necessarily for doing it!) He did say something along those lines after the event. 

    He also said they’d still work together, just less formally. Would an offer of a case by case basis until trust was rebuilt in exchange for abstention be a possibility? 

    I like a lot of the Greens’ ideas, but quite a lot of them are for after indy. And, tbh, some of them need to be seen in a broader context, despite their obvious urgency. Again, I see where they’re coming from and why they’re frustrated but wrecking the only left of centre party won’t help them achieve any of their aims at all.

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