In 2018, the above document from the UK Civil Service, attracted no media coverage at the time, to my knowledge, and only became known to me after a reader, I think, drew my attention to it.
It’s stunning.
Look at the text in the box at the bottom on the right for those waiting more than 12 hours. A&E patients in England who have to wait more than 12 hours had the clock restarted once they were transferred from A&E whereas in Scotland, for all who wait over 4 hours, the clock is not restarted and the time of first arrival in A&E is still used. This must have significantly understated the figures for England.
In 2023, the Royal College of Emergency Medicine estimated the true figure was FIVE times greater: para 81 in https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld5803/ldselect/pubserv/130/130.pdf
Note that NHS Wales was not included in the above comparison. The Civil Service is used to combining England & Wales data for crime so perhaps thought the same applied on this. It may well have done, given this next example of lack of transparency of a kind which could never be tried in Scotland.
Wales leads us to this only days ago from BBC Wales on patients being left out of the figures:
“We are not getting a true reflection of what is exactly happening on the shop floor,” said Dr Suresh Pillai, vice president of RCEM for Wales. “This year alone from January to June, they have excluded about 45,000 patients and that’s a huge number.
“If you don’t factor those patients in the already overcrowded emergency department, we cannot measure how bad things are. “If you don’t get the true figures, then the perception would be ‘everything is fine’. In fact, it is not.”
Dr Pillai said the issue had routinely been raised during meetings with the health minister and officials. FOI responses to the RCEM show that in the first six months of this year, 38.7% of patients in Wales waited longer than four hours in A&E departments.
When breach exemptions were included, as they were in other parts of the UK, the figure was 50%. That’s more than 45,000 patients – or 12% – removed from the figures. From January 2021 to June this year, more than 670,000 patients were not included in published figures – 23% of the total.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67056279
Given the greater prevalence of managerialism, outsourcing to the private sector and a consequent willingness to fake performance data, we know managers will, the same practice seems more than likely across the border into England.
Talking-up Scotland 'Albatraz' 
Of course the clock NEVER actually really STARTS on any real scrutiny or negativity connected to any Pro UK parties by the media here in Scotland…..while that SAME clock NEVER seems to STOP in constantly focusing upon and promoting negativity against the SNP by that SAME media in Scotland (and elsewhere at times too)……
I mean how else are they , as Pro UK parties, ever expected to win seats in Scotland in any election…..if the facts and truth were actually exposed by the media here in Scotland about them as pro UK parties….indeed if that happened then surely their TIME would have been up long ago…..
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‘that SAME clock NEVER seems to STOP in constantly focusing upon and promoting negativity’.
A supermarket newspaper rack positioned alongside check-out queue with multiple front pages with full-on negativity about the SNP conference and/or the FM. The BBC News website aggregates and amplifies all these negative newspaper headlines.
This supermarket is reached by passing a small shop which has one of those outside newspaper racks – same negative headlines and on most days The National front page is covered up by another paper.
Over recent days, whenever the BBC broadcasts a news item on the SNP conference it’s been framed negatively, including the now inevitable references to the police investigation, to ‘seismic’ Rutherglen, to internal divisions. Actual motions, actual policies?
This morning’s Radio 4 Today programme’s coverage of the SNP Conference was another example. It even managed to make a negative out of the warm reception given to Nicola Sturgeon – in terms ‘how will Mr Yousaf ever be as popular?’. (I suspect if Ms Sturgeon has stayed away, that would have been spun negatively too – ‘former FM’s absence indicates rift’ etc., etc.
And if on Sunday Joanna Cherry MP had opposed the SNP leadership’s motion on strategy that would have been a negative headline too. Her support, has it even been mentioned?
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As observed earlier John, the BBC Wales piece by Jenny Rees reeks of diversion…
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O/T Politics Live now going to discuss Independence but guess what no SNP person on panel or someone of a different view.
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Meant to say Tory/Lab/Lib and tory Telegraph know what she will be say.
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“O/T Politics Live now going to discuss Independence but guess what no SNP person on panel or someone of a different view”.
So basically tis the same old same old LOADED panel…to include one, who is a presenter, from either Talk TV or GB News media channels as a panel member…today tis Camilla Tominey formerly one who as a churnalist , had various roles with the right wing TORY newspaper The Sunday Express , and who is now still the associate editor of The ToryGraph also known as The Telegraph…..but who also currently hosts a programme on GB News……
The other panellists today are a Tory MP, Labour MP and a Lib Dem MP (none Scottish)…..what chance then that the chosen topic, independence for Scotland, will be one that is littered with Pro UK bias and too falsehoods quoted in respect to independence…….after all that IS the BBC’s job and too the job of Pro UK politicians and also right wing churnalists….to garner favour for their UK via lies while also lying in their combined quest to oppose Independence for Scotland…….and WHO among this mob LIVES in Scotland that then makes them assume , via them as panellists , to then think that they are then so very proficient via their combined and too individual knowledge to comment upon Scottish politics and too upon the legitimacy and justification of Scottish independence…..well obvs tis THEM who make this assumption and too the BBC who give them a platform to do it…time and time again….if you seek impartiality or credibility via opinions upon Scotland and it’s politics or indeed in respect to the Q of independence then the BBC or the mouths of both pro UK politicians and pro UK churnalists is not where you will EVER find it.
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Politics Live today Unionists 5 Indepence 1 says it all the 5 includes Jo Coburn.
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