Andrew Bowie Con MSP, above, yesterday on the changge.org website:
What the Nuclear Dump is For – The Big New Nuclear Gamble
Dear Friends,
The seismic blasting of the Irish Sea has taken place (to be followed by further invasive “investigations of the geology” in order to facilitate the ambitions of the nuclear gamblers who gathered this week at the Northern Nuclear Conference in of all places Carlisle Racecourse! The deep nuclear dump plans are necessary to this new nuclear agenda to put the waste ‘out of sight and out of mind’.
The Northern Nuclear Conference at Carlisle Racecourse this week saw Nuclear Minister Andrew Bowie epitomise the high excitement of the gambler: “Cumbria to be at the ‘beating heart’ of UK’s nuclear future.” Encyclopedia Britannica says gambling is “the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor’s miscalculation.” When gambling tips into addiction gamblers lie to themselves and to others. Our nuclear obsessed Government are ever more brazen “Nuclear is Clean Energy” smacks of a gambler’s desperate justification. What does the Encyclopedia say about “clean”? There are two themes: clean is “ free from pollution or other dangerous substances” and also to clean out ” to use up all or most of someone’s money.” Nuclear is the pole opposite of “free from pollution” but “to steal or take everything from (someone or something)” is pretty accurate. Cumbria stands to lose literally everything on the nuclear gamble.
https://www.change.org/p/save-the-whale-and-the-snail-stop-nuclear-waste-services-blasting-the-irish-sea/u/31717710?cs_tk=ArctpsdfbPfhAJnYqmQAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvDlm3DTHAWizgagGptJZ6RM%3D&utm_campaign=9a45ddab72d94add94df6a67c500e3c8&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
Sadly Anglocentric/Cumbriacentric, the writer from Milnthorpe , clearly not Milnathort, fails to mention that very nearby Scotland has as much to lose as Cumbria and that Nuclear Minister Bowie is a ‘Scot.’
Are we surprised he doesn’t give a for any of us?
Talking-up Scotland 'Albatraz' 
What could possibly go wrong, blast the seabed to kingdom come, fill the holes with nuclear waste, brilliant idea, how clever. There will be a petition along soon demanding the SNP stop dumping nukes into the sea, though I dumped ‘Eko’ last week (previously change.org?) for their email to millions of folk, and petition included to the UK gov, about UK rivers being full of effluent. Asked them to amend it to exclude Scotland and correct the record re Scottish Water not being in private hands and not dumping raw sewage into rivers and sea, unfortunately they completely ignored that.
That snidy little guttersnipe Bowie, when he loses the highly paid job he is not capable of, is he an MP I can’t remember, could always get a job in the film industry for smirking twirps.
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I did the same on LinkedIn but some Unionist took great pleasure in posting the Daily Record report which claimed Scottish Water had discharged sewage 14,000 times
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Aye they lie at every opportunity and folks fall for it, fools to the left of us fools to the right, I think that’s a song? 🙂
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Or even “Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle with you”
Gerry Rafferty
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Aye, Steelers Wheel – Big Ears Bowie probably heard “Stuck in the middle with Ewe” and his ears twitched in ecstatic anticipation – The variation “Stuck in a guddle with you” went on to be a firm favourite in Scotland long before McConnell screwed the Scots for the last time – The as yet final variant went on to feature as BBC Scotland’s “Stuck” featuring piss-artists such as Sarah Smith and James Cook which appears to be every bit as unpopular as it was back in the day except with Conservatives looking for some diversion to their embarrassment at a Tory conference in Perth….
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Lt. Bowie RN ( failed ) is the Tory choice to navigate this ‘ship’ to its destination and safe harbour .
Let’s hope that he has checked all the lifeboats are seaworthy and fully stocked with provisions , including sufficient Hazmat suits for the inevitable catastrophic failure of any enterprise which links ‘Nuclear’ and ‘ Bowie ‘ in the same sentence .
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Touch of the old “left hand down a bit number one”
and “let’s not hit the dock wall this time”
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Bowie’s career didn’t even make it to “Number two” in the RN, although he’s ‘number two’d” almost everyone including his electorate on his self-conceived rise to the top of the Tory septic tank…
Less a case of “Left hand down a bit” (Pertwee) than “Ooh, nasty…” (Philips).
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The effects of the Windscale plutonium Pile fire is still to be found in Cumbria and the Irish Sea.
Noticed that the AGRs are being refuelled at about four times the normal rate, must be related to the johnson order for more nuclear warheads.
More plutonium required means more fuel recycling and more waste to deal with.
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IIRC there were a host of studies carried out by a (Sheffield?) University to ca 100 miles of coastline either side of Winscale in the 70s/80s, measuring and quantifying the effects on aquatic life, and it was damning.
There were a series of studies on sheep on the Galloway hills showing the effects of radiation, variously blamed on granite then Chernobyl.
The myopia of WM politicians over nuclear has already been bad enough, but waste has been an issue they could never crack – Nobody wants it in their back yard, London wants it as far away as possible.
Smirky McSmirk is out on his bat-like ears at the next GE anyway, so is doubtless angling for a future stipend from Tory HQ… Unlike his Seniors in the Navy, he’s all too likely to fool them…
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Spock Bowie talks crap as usual so we should not be surprised enough said.
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Cumbria is ‘oop north’ and so, is far from London and the south east where the real English/British people live, including the military establishment and many bases (to protect the HOME counties – so Cumbria is not part of ‘Home’.
Although large centres of population like Manchester, Liverpool and the Lancashire towns are close by, well, it is unfortunate, if they suffer in an accident.
Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales are all close by and these Celtic chappies and chappesses have always formed the backbone of the British armed forces, so, they will be happy to do their bit to protect old Blighty. However, as General Wolfe said when he sent Scottish troops to storm the heights of Abraham in Montreal, “brave chaps, but no great loss if they are killed”. So, if the place explodes, ‘no great loss’.
In any case Cumbria and Wales are pretty mountainous, so the hills will protect the Home Counties from any blast.
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The nuclear depository in Cumbria has been in planning for 25 or so years so it will be pushed into touch for a long time, hence Bowie.
Windscale, Sellafield or whatever they change the name to in the future to hide away the costly enterprise of the uk’s nuclear bomb.
All the old nuclear sites will need to be maintained for 100’s of years.
It was to be free electricity as it wouldn’t be worthwhile using meters, see where that went, we now have the most expensive energy in Europe.
Even with the new ‘Cap’ I’m to pay 3 times what I paid 2 years ago.
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IIRC the TV spiel for nuclear ran “So cheap to produce it wouldn’t be worth sending bills out…” or similar.
Curious on your comment on power cost increases, looked up the spreadsheet I use to track how my home energy conservation project over here in Romania (records going back to 2016), and pulled a power kWh cost comparison.
On a year to year basis, the unit rate went down 6% from 2021-22, then up 5.9% 2022-23. Comparing 2023 to 2016 its +37.6% higher, although its an unfair comparison as recent years include an EU led discount on bills to compensate for the effects of the energy crisis – It’s now probably double the rate compared to 2016.
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We have a ficitious ‘CAP’ based on an average house and household.
It’s virtually impossible to get a kWHr cost if you try to change ‘trader’, seems our government has allowed the traders to hold their rate until you get the bill.
Worse still is we have to pay a subscription, the daily charge, to get connected, even although we are connected.
If you use zero energy units you still get a bill, last week I used zero gas but still got charged £1 for 4 days, sent in my meter reading due to the cap reduction.
Seems we are to be charged an extra £170 a year in green charges.
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Frankly Dave, I dread to think how much this totally artificial ‘market’ has so fundamentally impacted people’s lives in what I now view as a financial stitch-up by those who would ‘play the markets’ which quite seemed geared to bankrupt the EU.
By way of comparative, aside the EU offset, there are no standing charges in Romania, you pay purely on consumption whether you’re halfway up a mountain or in a city, it’s exactly the same no matter where you are.
The UK developed these weird feed in Tariffs favouring the South off England 30 odd years ago and the Broonasaurus didn’t change a thing 20 years ago despite the energy landscape having changed out of all recognition.
It’s a rip off.
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The main reason they want more nuclear material is for weapons , not for energy to heat or light your homes.
Nuclear materials to be used to make nuclear weapons for U.K. USA and Israel.
To be used as a threat for commercial trade gains against smaller countries who do not have the power to fight back.
NATO is used in this way across the world for the sole purpose of enhancing USA commercial trade gains .
We are fast approaching a point where the various groups of countries around the world for or against USA will face off against one another.
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You’re correct Bob, “So cheap, it won’t be worthwhile sending out bills.” Harold Wilson?
I was living and working in Dumfries and Galloway when they tried, twice, to use the Loch Ken and surrounding area for dumping. The second time when activism was called for it was the farmer’s wives and mothers who turned out to the meetings and protests.
Why D&G? It is a geologically stable landscape. It had been until a small tremor shook the the landscape, causing a loch, in the area to be drilled, to empty. Result? As you were, we’re having a rethink.
NIREX were involved and I remember the final decision was to store the stuff above ground, so the condition and heat could be monitored.
In our area, Skye, we had a horticultural growers group. The advice we had to give on the use of seaweed as a fertiliser, soil conditioner, was to compost it, do not to use it “raw.” The reason was radioactivity, using it fresh off the beach would lead to a build up of radioactive isotopes in the soil and produce. I asked whose “fingerprint” on the isotopes, answer, Sellafield.
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The Galloway proposal related to the Mulwarchar Hills and, if I remember right a certain George Younger MP, former Secretary of State for Scotland, Conservative MP for Ayr joined some of the protest marches.
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