Is Scotland More Egalitarian than England?

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Having quickly read both Professor Curtice’s blog (link below) and also the relevant chapter of the report it refers to, I am left with an impression that in drafting the former and the conclusions of the latter, there may have been an attempt to emphasise the similarities between attitudes in England and Scotland – it would be remarkable if there were none – but to minimise or underplay the differences.

In the ‘Overview’ section of the main report, this is stated: “People living in Scotland tend to be more social – democratically minded than people living in England.” And: “… there are significant differences between people living in England and Scotland in terms of perceptions of social fairness, ..…”

Alert readers will note the use of the term ‘significantly’ here!

But in his blog, Professor Curtis states: “In short, the image that emerges from the research is that Scotland is far from being at odds with England in its dislike of inequality and is only a little more inclined to do something about it” This leaves the reader with a rather different message!

And the main report states: “… respondents in Scotland who identified with the SNP were more likely to express dissatisfaction with government effectiveness at tackling inequality than respondents who identified with other parties.”

I have a sense here – and perhaps I’m getting hypersensitive – that a question asked about effectiveness of “the government in Britain” is then shifted to, at least by implication, ‘governments in Britain’. Quite different things! If asked about views on ‘the government in Britain’ I strongly suspect most SNP voters would take this to mean Westminster: their expression of dissatisfaction then indicates much more than, in the words of Professor Curtis, “only a little more inclined to do something about it”! They are ‘inclined’ to the most radical enabling action – dissolving the Union!

Elsewhere in the main report we learn:
“… the comparatively more negative perception of those in Scotland of Britain’s current income distribution does suggest that Scotland may have more of a tendency towards socially democratic politics – consistent with previous analysis of BSA and SSA.”

And also: ‘Significantly more respondents living in Scotland think that it is “somewhat wrong” or “very wrong” for those with higher incomes to be able to buy better health care, with two in five (42%) reporting this view, compared to one third (32%) in England. Similarly, 45% of respondents in Scotland feel that it is somewhat or definitely wrong that people with higher incomes can buy better education, compared with one third (34%) of respondents in England.’

Note that word ‘significantly’ again!

And finally and oddly: “Amongst those that identify with socially democratic parties, there are differences between respondents in England relative to Scotland, but these are relatively subtle. Half of social democrat identifiers in Scotland feel that people on higher incomes buying better health care or education is wrong (49% and 53% respectively). This compares with approximately two-fifths of respondents in England (37% and 40%) respectively.”

Check the differences in percentages: 49% vs. 37%; 53% vs 40%. Are these really ‘subtle’ differences? Or a drafting of text to, not so subtly, underplaying differences?

Throughout the report there are numerous instances where claimed prevalence of similarities or only subtle differences in attitudes between Scotland and England are used to question ‘difference’ as a justifiable part of the case for Scotland’s independence.

https://www.scotcen.org.uk/blog/is-scotland-more-egalitarian-than-england

4 thoughts on “Is Scotland More Egalitarian than England?”

  1. It is in our DNA to be more mindful of our actions and to look out for our fellow citizens
    Humanity can be summed as follows
    We are merely a lump of DNA and RNA
    50 % pre programmed to react to environmental stimuli in a given manner
    The other 50 % is learned from life experience and our surroundimgs
    And that is exactly why there is in fact a huge difference between Scotland and England
    But almost similar to our Celtic cousins in Ireland and Wales but not to exclude entirely
    Where the Celtic genes still plentiful in Cornwall ,Catalonia etc
    Deep down we have a strong affinity with other Celts
    However take out a street atlas of London
    And you would be surprised at the number of streets named with a strong Celtic origin
    But down there they pay no attention to there actual real roots and identify with falsehoods
    And whilst navigating the stormy waters of life, then if you forgot as to where you set sail from without doubt you will find yourself not knowing where now you are.
    We Scots are certainly becoming more aware
    Of who,where we came from,our current position and exactly where we wish to set course for
    England knows little of all this and that is exactly the root of their ever growing problems

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  2. It’s weird. Scotland can’t be seen as different, in the eyes of England, yet, England’s attitude towards immigration is that people are too different to fit in, so don’t let them in, in fact, deport them if they are not from the UK.OKey dokey.
    Scotland has to be assimilated, or be treated as A.N.other.
    The denial of Scotland’s ancient nationhood started centuries ago, it still goes on today. But, Scotland’s money is not accepted by many in England, the myth of ‘not legal tender’, and it’s part of the racism towards Scotland. Different but the same. Which reminds me of when my son was at primary school, before I saw the light and removed him to be home educated, he used to say that at school they were told ‘everyone is the same’, and at the same time, ‘everyone is different’, and he just could not fathom that. I guess they were maybe trying to make kids feel included, (sadly that did not extend to those with Aspergers) but unique. Still, I can see where he was coming from!

    Scotland, can you be different in culture, social attitudes, language, and even monetarily, but still shackled to England? That is getting to be more of a grey area is it not.

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  3. “There is no difference.” This was also given air time in 2014, with Michael Portillo given a full programme to explore and dispell the possibility of any difference, socially, outlook and aspirationally. Wir a Jock Tamson’s bairns, whither a spake Geordie, Cockney or County.
    Farage and UKip got 4+% of the vote in England. He got thrown out the pub in Scotland.
    Apparently he’s coming back with another registered party to run for seats at Holyrood 2021. Any truth in this?

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  4. Scotland is less equal in the UK. Barnett Formula fraud. It would help the rest of the UK if Scotland was Independent.

    No more illegal wars, tax evasion and financial fraud. Scotland would be better off. Instead of Westminster Treasury wasting public funding.

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